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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37   #61
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AHAHAHA PARAGON NERF AHAHAHAHAHA
Dead profession is dead.
Um...no Paragons are STILL overpowered. 2 skill nerfs doesnt kill a profession, especially since its their primary attribute that makes them broken.

As for Shadow Form, they need to replace "All attacks miss" to "You block all attacks".

That will significantly stop this build.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38   #62
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I don't think Chillblains was [ab]used much. Why did it take a hit? Shouldn't it be less energy than 25 considering it poisons you, deals hardly any damage and requires you to be in touch range?

I'm baffled.

Edit: Enchanter's Conundrum + Phantom Pain followed by Drain Delusions and Shatter Delusions is a huuuuge spike.

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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39   #63
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That Aggresive Refrain nerf stinks of that Exhaustion fiasco involving Ritualists.
Now to hope that they'll unnerf AR like the rit skills..

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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39   #64
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Wow hardmode mixed with this weekend will make for some crazy ass points, awesome stuff!
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40   #65
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Well, this looks like a great update, except i can't get into hard mode just yet..Will definitely be doing that as soon as its available for me!

I do feel a bit of a mug for handing in my dungeon book last week! no chance of there being a retroactive reward i guess

The only thing im unhappy about: Paragons!

For god's sake BUFF THEM FOR ONCE! I made a Paragon when Nightfall came out, and they were useful for roughly 2 months. Then they got nerfed, and I could hardly use him. Then a month later they were nerfed again..and again..and again..

At this rate there are going to be about 10 paragons playing in the entire game within 2 weeks.
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AHAHAHA PARAGON NERF AHAHAHAHAHA
Dead profession is dead.
Maybe you should look at like other skills, QQ cracked armor oh noes! GFTE 4 recharge so what? you still gain energy like crazy with other chants and wut not. Maybe if you a Axe Paragon, I hear they are soo gud, then aggy might hurt you.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41   #66
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Strange. I got the books from the asura NPC.
Both the Ebon and Nor NPC refuse to give me books. Probably you can't deliver/get books after you get past some rank (rank 6?) with that faction.

Have fun,
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:43 PM // 19:43   #67
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also whats up with ever class but rits getting a balance? Like for the most part i like this update very much but some parts of it just seem... odd. I wish they let use spirit spam again with rit lord.. loved that build
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45   #68
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GREAT UPDATE!

For those that complained about "grind"=New Armors; you got your wish. You now have 2 options to unlock those armors. You can farm the points, made easier by HM, or finish the story line 4 times to unlock them all.

My warrior build got a bit of a nerf, but nothing I cant handle.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45   #69
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I'm sorry, but everything else in the update is just gravy on top of the /report being turned back on.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46   #70
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No fix for the FoW/UW monument issues??
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46   #71
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The mesmer updates... wow. Just wow. Sig of Illusions is amazing now.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46   #72
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Strange. I got the books from the asura NPC.
Both the Ebon and Nor NPC refuse to give me books. Probably you can't deliver/get books after you get past some rank (rank 6?) with that faction.

Have fun,
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Same problem here as well, I turned in both books for vanguard rep and the guy wouldn't give me a new dungeon book nor we he even look at my new hero book. My guess is similar to the sunspear ranks you'll need to show them a hardmode book and can only use normal mode books to rank 8.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46   #73
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Um...no Paragons are STILL overpowered. 2 skill nerfs doesnt kill a profession, especially since its their primary attribute that makes them broken.
Actually, this gives paragons an interesting choice. They can either keep AR, and just make sure they don't get too cocky and they don't get spiked, or they can take a skill like Flail. Flail should work equally well, but you don't keep it up forever and it's adrenaline based.

Or, you take one of those gay Necro skills that transfers conditions.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47   #74
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also whats up with ever class but rits getting a balance? Like for the most part i like this update very much but some parts of it just seem... odd. I wish they let use spirit spam again with rit lord.. loved that build
Their spirits got a rather large nerf.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49   #75
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Their spirits got a rather large nerf.
Yeah just read that too, wish there was something actually good in the update for them. Its hard when my favorite class is totally unwanted nowdays
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:50 PM // 19:50   #76
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" No fix for the FoW/UW monument issues??"
There is one.

But guys who're complaining about the paragon buff, we've replaced you :P

Any and all melee attackers can spam 'Save Yourselves' :P
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:50 PM // 19:50   #77
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I have a problem with cracked armour as a condition here. Mainly from a lore point of view. Conditions should effect the character physically, like all others do, but cracked armour effects a players' armour..

Doesn't make sense that plague touch should work on it somehow.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51   #78
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You can get access to HM by beating the final mission again (if you are in a hurry)
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51   #79
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Yeah just read that too, wish there was something actually good in the update for them. Its hard when my favorite class is totally unwanted nowdays
I know, sick of Paragons only getting nerfs. Granted, some of the skills do need nerfed, but since over 50% of their other skills are unusable, seems like they would at least attempt to adjust them.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52   #80
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Actually, this gives paragons an interesting choice. They can either keep AR, and just make sure they don't get too cocky and they don't get spiked, or they can take a skill like Flail. Flail should work equally well, but you don't keep it up forever and it's adrenaline based.

Or, you take one of those gay Necro skills that transfers conditions.
[skill]Soldier's Fury[/skill]

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